Extra! Extra! (9.29)

Stargazin,

To answer your Tomko question, are you sure you meant him, and not Hendrickson? I wouldn’t start Tomko. I think we’re pressing our luck right now as is. Tomko gave us some solid starts, then some solid relief work. He came here pegged as the No.5 starter, and although I think he has underachieved a bit, he did provide us some patch-work when we needed it. I honestly think we have squeezed all the juice out of that lemon, so under no circumstance would I start Tomko.

Now, if you meant Hendrickson, that is a very interesting suggestion. Left-handers eat the Mets alive, so he might be a good option should Penny not be able to start. You can even attempt to throw a Timberrr/Stults combination at the Mets. Kuo is a given, and Mad Dog and Lowe are set. But if Penny is healthy enough to pitch you have to go with your money pitcher. Even though he has been struggling you have to pitch him (albeit on a short leash). The postseason is the “new season”, so the slate is wiped clean. Should Penny not be able to pitch though, throwing another lefty into the rotation might not be a bad idea against the Mets.

I hate the "we should thank the Rockies" stuff. That is absurd. You win the games you're supposed to win. Other teams played the Rockies more than a dozen times too. Why didn't THEY have lopsised records against them? You start picking at individual records against teams and you open up a can of worms.

You know, if San Diego didn't have to play us we would be 8 games up on them. San Diego should send us a thank you note. (See how stupid that sounds?)

there was an article a few days back saying honeycutt thought that penny was just trying to pitch too hard. he said all his mechanics are fine but when he tries to pitch too hard sometimes it doesn't have the same movement/accuracy.

AK/BK and the rest,

if we stay even with the phillies the next two days, and have the wild card clinched before sunday, i think that we should save lowe to pitch two games in the nlds. what do you guys think?

Lolo, bmurph:

Yesh. I've been saying that to my Dodger buddies for a while too. Penny is throwing too hard and missing his spots. It's been just so frustrating to watch. Ease up, buddy! You would think the mofo would learn something from Maddog. He could save the extra fast stuff to surprise a batter, but instead, he uses it as his out pitch on every at bat. I think he caught the bad habit when the announcers were raving about never seeing Penny throw so hard at the AS Game.

LOLO-JUST ANOTHER BOMKO JOKE.
PENNYS BACK IS JUST A COVER STORY FOR HIM TO SAVE FACE.
HE COMPLAINED ABOUT HIS BACK IN THE FIRST HALF ALSO.
NOT SAYING HE DOESNT HAVE SOME LOWER BACK PROBLEMS.
( WHO DOESN'T).
JUST SAYING ITS NOT THE ROOT OF HIS PROBLEMS.
DEFINITELY APPEARS TO BE OVER THROWING.

I'M SURE THEY MENTION IT TO HIM AND HE TELLS THEM TO GO TAKE A FLYING LEAP.
HE'S HIS OWN WORST ENEMY.
RIGHT NOW HE'S ARE OWN WORST ENEMY TOO.

HE COULD BLOW THE WHOLE DEAL FOR US IF WE GIVE HIM THE CHANCE.
KINDA TOUGH RIGHT NOW- TWO VET STARTERS AND ONE ROOKIE STATER.
BEYOND THAT ITS A HARD DECISION.

GOTTA GIVE THE NATS CREDIT. FIGHTING FOR NOTHIN BUT SELF RESPECT. THEY REALLY CAME THRU FOR US.

The difference between Thomas and Gange is that Thomas is close to the end of his career and Gange is not. The 2 injury filled years for Thomas were compounded by his age and the amount of years he's played. Sure Oakland took a chance with him at 500 thousand and look what they got. Nobody expected that. But still, Thomas is closer to the end of his career than to the middle of his career. What, 2 maybe 3 more years because of the DH in the American league? If it wasn't for the DH he would be gone by now.

Gange on the other hand, if healthy, has plenty of gas in the tank. He is dominate when healthy. The guy is a 10 million dollar a year pitcher. No way does he go to 500 thousand a year plus incentives. Gange if healthy is a 5 million dollar investment plus incentives coming off an injury plauged 2 seasons. Didn't Nomar get 6 million plus incentives for this year? Wasn't he injured for the past 2 years before this year? Gange has be to dealt with in the same light as Nomar.

My suggestion is that Gange get a 5 million dollar contract in base salary and the incentives go like this:

If he gets 20 saves there's a kick in of 1.5 million bringing the contracts worth to 6.5 million.

If he gets 30 saves there's a kick in of 3 million bringing the contracts worth to 8 million.

If he gets 40 saves or more then there's a kick in of 5 million brining the contracts worth to 10 million dollars.

It's reasonable to me because the Dodgers, if Gange was healthy, were going to pay him 12 million dollars, anyway. Now if Gange gets 40 saves next year, then you know he's healthy. If by chance he stays healthy and doesn't get to 40 saves, then he makes 8 million dollars on the contract. Assuming he gets between 30-39 saves. That is a fair trade off for getting 20 million for the last 2 years, basically, for being injured.

mike

AND TALK ABOUT PEOPLE WATCHING OUR BACKS-
SUPERBOY DEFEATED ZOD AGAIN LAST NIGHT TO SAVE THE WORLD AGAIN. TALK ABOUT GUYS WE TAKE FOR GRANTED.

HOT DOGS, APPLE PIE AND SUPERBOY

LOLO- DID YOU SEE GRUMPY TRADING KEMP, LONEY AND THE THREE BEES??? HE JUST HASN'T BEEN THE SAME SINCE THE SQUIRREL AND STAPLER THING? LOL??

LOLO- PAULY STILL A DODGER AT HEART. ANOTHER TRADE THAT NEVER SHOULDA HAPPENED.

AT THE START OF THE YEAR WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED WE'D BE DOWN TO A THREE MAN ROTATION OF MADDUX, LOWE AND KUO.

I DO BELIEVE BILLZ WILL COME BACK NEXT YEAR TO BECOME A TOP PITCHER. THE INJURY JUST HAPPENED AT A BAD TIME. IF HE HAS AN INJURY LIKE THAT IN MID YEAR AND THEY SEND HIM DOWN TO REHAB AT VEGAS AND HE COMES BACK READY TO GO.REHABIN AT MAJOR LEAGUE
LEVEL DOESN'T WORK.