Anyone want to win a baseball game?

i hope they get all the rest possible. if they play like this against the pads, its gonna be a short season. ill give credit to where its due, they swept, and that what matters. now go watch film.

AK
From the last thread. You guys did want Betemit to play all the time. I'll take Proctor every time. He is known for being an innning eater and he is doing it . The Dodgers are getting a lot more for their money with Proctor than Betemit. Damn, I thought we had agreed on this. Betemit is where he needs to be-----anywhere except LA. You just wanted him to play every day because Grady did. So did BK.

Package,

BK beat me to the punch, but if you're gonna present my opinion on something, please present it accurately. And you should be able to, since we debated this topic back and forth all the time early in the season.

My thoughts in favor of keeping Betemit in the lineup had zero to do with Grady Little whatsoever. Like I said at the time, nobody was better suited for the job. He was their only lefty source of power. And since the team was cruising along in first and not truly suffering for his lack of production, I thought it was worth trying to get him get him going with more at bats. It didn't work and I obviously was wrong. But I wasn't kissing up to or "worshipping" Little. I doubt he even knew my thoughts on the subject. I just happened to agree with him.

And once Nomar- who didn't really fill the void, either- took the job and Betemit was essentially reduced to a left handed bat off the bench, I had no problem trading him for Proctor, especially considering how thinly stretched the pen was at the time. So it's not like I wept over Betemit's absence.

Again, I don't care if you want to mock my opinion. I'm not thin skinned. But at least mock my opinion correctly.

AK

Kent is playing like he has something to prove recently. Is he campaigning for one last season in '08?

from last thread:

i know mak. i was just talking about proctor, not shea when it concerns you. i should of clarified better. sorry

pakage,
all i was saying was betemit shouldnt have gone for proctor. supposedly, a bunch of teams was asking for him, so why he had to go in the middle of the season? if he had to go, so be it, just not for scott. i think he should have been allowed to stay for the year before he got shipped. i feel the yanks ripped the dodgers with the trade. didnt they need pitching? why give up a "good" reliever for a "bad" player? why dont you put yourself in cashman spot. he now has a cheap power hitter he can trade to a lesser team for some talent. that is the true worth of betemit if he couldnt stay on the team.

1955,

what are you talking about? why you got to say things like that? were all fans here, and when bad things happen, we say stuff to make it feel better, and when good stuff happens, we want to praise them. your probably someone who got betrayed a lot huh? real moody? its okay. we're all fans!

i just love it when someone disagrees with a point someone makes and they act snotty and arrogant and imposes their "correct" responses on the person with the point by saying "they arent fans", "you dont know what you're talking about", and "get your facts straight", etc. those type of people act like they own the team and they run it, or they are actual players! to those people i say this: GET A FREAKIN' LIFE!! it aint that serious, really. disagree tactfully, or people will respond accordingly. damn, its just a blog and were talking about something that we like. we're not talking politics, religion, sex, race, or something more important. just have fun children.

Hey Matt Kemp hit a homer today........Another good reason to bench him tomorrow right Grady Little

Dear WOLF, Package, 1955, and everyone else,

For the love of all things Dodger Blue: "Can't we all just get along?"

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/lapd/getalong2.jpg

Aryan,
We were clowning and having some fun with your boy Matt Kemp earlier. But you take it like a great sport, and you have been, without a doubt, the most consistent blogger on BLUE NOTES all year long! Cheers, buddy!

LET'S GO BLUE!!!!!!!!!

AK/BK
From now on I will try and be as clear as I can when I make a comment on what I remember to be your position on any point.
That being said, I do have a comment and a question.
I feel that the sweep over the Nats was definitely needed, however, I feel that it may have been a ugly sweep as the Dodgers got a lot of breaks that they might not receive when playing the frontrunners. Also, I feel that they made too many mistakes. Your Thoughts??
My question is: If the Dodgers fail to make the playoffs by a few games, do you think Grady and/or Ned should be terminated? Of course you don't have to answer but if you do, I am betting the farm that both of you will continue to support both. You saw the same manageing that I did this year so I know you have an opinion. My opinion is that Grady should go but the jury is still out on Ned. Everyone else is invited to answer of course, if they care to. Just curious.
Thank You

Dave M.,

Seanez had only gotten one out, was 0-2 on his second batter, and plunked him. Bringing in Beimel in that situation wasn't such a bad move on paper, considering his knack of inducing the DP, which he eventually did, but one batter too late. I don't think you can pin that one on Grady.

As for Stults batting, that was a serious head scratcher, too. Him striking out on a bunt attempt was far from the worst thing that could have happened, though, considering he could have swung away and grounded into a double play.

Laker Seth,

If you're talking about the last play, there really wasn't anyone left to pinch run. Lieberthal was the only guy left on the bench, other than the remaining pitchers Lowe, Billingsley, Wells, and Hernandez.

Laker Seth-

At that point, there really wasn't anyone left to pinch run with. The only position player available was Lieberthal. No more subbing to be done.

Package-

Obviously the last month will have an impact on your question, but as of right now, no I wouldn't fire either. It's not that I agree with everything either one has done- certainly there are things Grady does I don't like, and clearly not every Colletti move has panned out- but I think they've both (Colletti more than Little, I'd say) done a pretty good job and more importantly, I don't know who out there would be better. If you presented me options for managers that would be better than Little, it might be different, and while my off-hand accounting of the managerial pool might forget a name or two, there really aren't any out there that I look at and say "That guy is worth four or five more wins on his own."

As for Colletti, clearly the team he put together has some flaws, but I don't know what he should have done differently. Pierre's contract was a big question mark. Schmidt was one too (though at the time I thought it was a good one, and I had access to at least the same statistical info that said he was terrible over the second half last year- but I'm not paid to be right like he is (okay, I'm paid to be right, but not nearly as much... haha). But short of packaging the young players for veterans, I don't know what else they should have done in the big picture, especially in a thin FA offseason and a turbulent roster situation. Guys like Ted Lilly turned out to be good signings, but would you have given Ted Lilly Ted Lilly money?

The team looked very competitive, health providing, at the beginning of the year. Well, health didn't really provide. Beyond that, players didn't perform up to reasonable expectations, especially during that horrible stretch. So no, niether guy is perfect, but as of today, no I wouldn't fire either one.

BK