Ned on Esteban
Ned Colletti met with the media Wednesday to discuss the signing of Esteban Loaiza. Interesting stuff on a couple of levels. Not only does he explain the motivations for bringing in Loaiza, but some of his remarks on the big-picture stuff show his perspective on the current climate for player acquisitions and hint at what we might look for this summer.
Click below the jump for the Q&A.
-- BK
Q: How much can Loaiza contribute after only two starts this year?
Ned Colletti: Well, he's made another four in the minor leagues. So we watched him in the rehab starts and we watched him in the last two starts. He threw over 100 pitches both times; he got out of the seventh inning both times against Toronto (on Aug. 22 and 27, respectively). He's also signed for next year, and looking at the free-agent market, or what looks like the free-agent market, the guys that are potentially free agents, it's a really thin group in our minds. Hopefully he'll be better than going out and looking for somebody else.
Q: How difficult is it to find pitching at this time of year?
A: I think it's incredibly difficult. Maybe two or three starters were traded at the deadline and a handful of relief pitchers. But when you look around at the rosters and you look at the rotations, it's obviously a part of a team that the season takes it toll. There's a lot of clubs that are scrambling to find five starters. Including us, for a while.
Q: Is there a risk here?
A: There's a risk in anything you do. We'll see how it goes.
Q: What does Loaiza bring to the table?
A: He's pitched a lot in the big leagues. He knows how to pitch. He's not a power guy -- he's more of a pitcher than he is a power pitcher. I think he gives us some depth. We're obviously thin right now. He gives us some depth, and he's pitched in big games. He's pitched a lot of time in the big leagues with a winning record.
Q: Since it was a waiver claim, did you have access to any medical information regarding his health?
A: We did. We talked for the last day or so about potential trades, and the guys that they wanted back we weren't going to move in a situation like this because we thought we could get him on a claim if we waited long enough. But the doctors spoke. Our doctors and their doctors have all spoken.
Q: A million dollars is quite a lot for five or six starts. Did you pick up the rest of his salary?
A: He's got a million dollars -- a million and change -- plus $6.5 next year.
Q: Were you more interested in what he could do this year or the fact he was locked in next year as well?
A: A little bit of both. We obviously need as much pitching as we can get at this time of the year, and going back to the potential free-agent market, last year was thin. This year, in my mind, is thinner. Most of those free agents don't sign for a year. Most are looking for two-, three- or four-year deals. So if you believe it to be thin and you believe it's going to take more than one year to sign somebody, you're better off sometimes taking the one-year deal that we did rather than waiting for November, December or January to come around and being tied to somebody for three or four years that you're lukewarm on.
Q: Does this have any impact on the potential for picking up Randy Wolf's option for next year?
A: It's too early to tell. That's a good question, though. He still hasn't been able to overcome what he's fighting shoulder-wise. We don't know if we're going to get him back this year or not. Couple that with the free-agent market, couple that with our need in September for another arm, that's part of the thought process. That doesn't mean we're not going to think about it, and we're looking into (picking up the option) and we're not going to try and figure something out, but we just don't have enough to go on to say we're going to go do that.
Q: And you're assuming good health from Schmidt going into spring training?
A: There's still a long ways to go. I think we've all seen that pitching in the big leagues is thinner and thinner and less and less. If you looked at everyone's rotation maybe two weeks ago, where they started the season and where they are now, there's very few that have any resemblance to where they began. Some, but very few. And there's a lot of pitchers pitching today that show you how thin it is.
Q: Do you worry that, given how thin pitching is around the league, why Oakland would let a guy go without getting anything back. Why would you let a good arm go?
A: They are getting something back. You'll have to talk to them for their thought process. That (salary) is probably the reason that they did it, because they'll have $6.5 million next year to spend some other place. They've got some young pitching. I don't know for sure. I'm not going to run Billy's (A's GM Billy Beane) team for him.
Q: Sure. But does it make you pause that a team is willing to give up an arm in a thin market just to save 6 million bucks?
A: Not really. They're in a different place and time than we are now.

It's Cover Your Ass time. Colletti's lack of response to the Schmidt question is a huge tipoff to the fact that his star signing was a huge bust and won't be pitching next year either, if ever again.
That makes the Loiaza signing a good one. Where else were you going to get a pitcher of his caliber (above .500, which is more than you can say about Ranyd Wolf) without giving up anything other than money? The free agent market for pitchers is thinner than Nicole Richie.
Best of all, with a couple of good outings, Loaiza can be the new Mexican fan favorite, and we can get rid of 0-fer 0lmedo and replace him with a bench player who can do more than whiff.
Posted by: SaMo | August 30, 2007 at 03:02 PM
SaMo,
Olmedo is from Panama.
Posted by: Chunkdog32 | August 30, 2007 at 03:46 PM
Maybe Wolf can do what Tomko has done (or tried to do...) and be the long relief and back up starter next year. His cost is reasonable (not our money, right?) and you KNOW that over 162 games he will be spelling somebody.
Look at how often Tomko was needed to start over the last 2 years.
If Brazoban and Schmidt come back healthy our pitching could start off next year looking VERY good.
Posted by: Andy B | August 30, 2007 at 03:47 PM
Thank you, ChuckDog. You beat me to the punch there. I think that this isn't the first time it has happened here, but I get offended when people try to make a joke at Olmedo's ehnic expense, but they totally get the Tomato's nationality wrong.
Rudy was born in Mexico, I believe. And even Nomar has more Mexican heritage than Olmedo. Once upon a time, wasn't Nomar's dad or uncle a professional futbol player in Mexico?
Posted by: DodgerBlueBalls | August 30, 2007 at 04:02 PM
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10322707/1
17. Los Angeles Dodgers: When the Loneys and LaRoches and Kershaws take over within a year or two, the L.A. Times (motto: editors? what editors?) will owe Paul DePodesta and his balls of money a huge apology. This should be a win-every-year franchise, given the available resources. They were on that path until Ned Colletti decided that good players don't win ballgames -– veteran players do. Dumbass.
Posted by: Tom | August 30, 2007 at 04:26 PM
Tom,
Forget that MLB article. Check out this one. It will make the Dodgers' off day even more fun.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2007/08/30/drew_still_doesnt_know_what_to_do/
Posted by: Chunkdog32 | August 30, 2007 at 04:55 PM
The Loiza acquisition is a good one with a small amount of risk (hey its not my money). If Boomer and Esteban can hold it together for a month, LA wil have a good shot at the division. Anybody is better than Hendrickson and Tomko. I am going to the Saturday Padres-Dodger game @ Petco and will be rooting for LA to sweep!!
Posted by: steve | August 30, 2007 at 05:20 PM
Chunkdog32
Nice article! When Boston wanted to sign Drew once he opted out of his contract with the Dodgers, they should have consulted us Dodgers fans instead of Scott Boras. We could have made a list of Drew's inefficiencies. He can't hit in the clutch. He takes too many pitches, way too many pitches. I don't think Drew understands that swinging for a third strike and taking a thrid strike both equal a strikeout; one doesn't look better than the other. His 20 HRs and 100RBi's was "a fraud" and all Dodgers fans know what I mean. Look on the bright side, instead of paying Drew his salary, we got a guy in Pierre who is batting in the .290s with 50+ stolen bases. And to the Red Sox fans: In the playoffs with the tying runs or winning run on base, there is a better chance of Julio Lugo coming through than J.D. Drew. At least Paul Depodesta did do something right in putting that opt-out clause in Drew's contract. Without Drew and Choi on the Dodgers roster anymore, the P.A. guy at Dodger stadium can't do the "beat l.a." rhythm. If a miracle happens, maybe we can do the "J.D. Sucks" chant in October.
Posted by: Tom | August 30, 2007 at 06:11 PM
Tom-
I think you are misrepresenting Colletti's position. He likes veterans, but I think that's true of every GM who's not totally rebuilding. He has not given up any of the stars of the future to get a veteran. It's also important to remember that it's not a fantasy league draft; he can only sign players who are available. The fans always have the answer on Dodger Talk, you just trade your worst players for some other team's stars. Unfortunately that doesn't play in the real world.
Posted by: uclart47 | August 30, 2007 at 09:01 PM
Tom,
When you quote someone, do the following:
1. Put quotes around their remarks.
2. Check to see if the source of the quotes is correct.
If memory serves me correct, Paul DePodesta came to the Dodgers prior to the 2004 season, and was fired after the 2005 season.
Loney was signed in 2002 when Dan Evans was the GM.
LaRoche was signed in 2003, also during the Dan Evans regime.
Kershaw was signed in 2006 when Colletti was GM.
In all cases, the scouting director (now asst. GM) was Logan White, who was hired by Dan Evans.
SO WHAT'S THE POINT????????????
Posted by: Brooklyn Dodger | August 30, 2007 at 10:21 PM
BK- Thanks for the text of the q @ a session. I like the signing of Loaiza. I watched him pitch a lot in 2005 when he was in Washington, and he's a good pitcher. I agree with Steve that anyone is better than Hendrickson and Tomko, and Loaiza is a major step above those guys. If Wells can got on a roll and Billingsley keeps showing improvement with his command, the Dodgers should be in the race all the way to the end.
Posted by: Va Dodger | August 31, 2007 at 04:46 AM
I'm embarrased and humbled by the Saenz nationaliity mistake. I only meant that he was a fan favorite, especially aong Latino fans, kind of the same way Fernando was. I still stand by the point, that Loaiza could become a new fan favorite, and then we could quietly thank Olmedo for his years of service, but it's time to go. I meant no offense.
Olmedo was clutch as clutch could be for a few years, and even the first half of this season. But he's lost it since the All-Star Break. Grady's half-assed attempts to get him an occasional start didn't really result in honing his swing; he's now a guaranteed pinch out.
As for the stupid CBS article, in addition to the players Brooklyn Dodger mentioned, here are some other Logan White/Dan Evans signings BEFORE DePodesta got his hands on the franchise.
OF Jason Repko (1999)
OF Matt Kemp (2003)
OF Delwyn Young (2002)
2B Tony Abreu (2002 free agent)
SS Chin Lung Hu (2003 free agent)
C Russell Martin (2002)
P Chad Billingsley (2003)
P Jonathan Broxton (2002)
Posted by: SaMo | August 31, 2007 at 09:43 AM
Thanks SaMo.
And let me add, if anyone from the 2004 Draft (Elbert, DeWitt, Orenduff, etc.) is ultimately successful with the Dodgers, ZERO credit is due to DePo (AKA, Mr. Moneyball). Any credit due for that draft goes to Logan White. Period. End of Discussion.
Posted by: Brooklyn Dodger | August 31, 2007 at 11:00 AM
What I just said for 2004 also applies to 2005 (Jonathan Meloan comes to mind). It was Logan White, NOT Mr. Moneyball.
Posted by: Brooklyn Dodger | August 31, 2007 at 11:05 AM
Brooklyn Dodger and SaMo,
Respect! Tom's CBS sportsline article wasn't worth even reading. And as far as I'm concerned, the Dodgers better lock up LOGAN WHITE to a long-term deal, forget about the players!!
Credit goes to DePodesta?? Them's fightin' words.
Posted by: Steve M. | August 31, 2007 at 12:42 PM
Wait this was ur question and answer thing?.........I thought it was just the medias or something
Well if this was urs then why didnt u ask him why he lets Grady Little bench Matt Kemp and Andre Eithier whenever he feels like it?..........Why didnt u ask him if he noticed that Grady Little benches Matt Kemp & Andre Eithier and yet rarley ever benches Juan PIerre?...................Those are two good questions
Posted by: Aryan | August 31, 2007 at 01:43 PM
The only credit I can give to DePodesta is bringing in Derek Lowe, a reliable starting pitcher on a team that didn't have one (don't forget that Odalis Perez was our #1 at the time, and Penny had thrown all of six pitches at the time before being injured. However, if you're going to sign a ground ball pitcher, you should probably go get some slick infielders. Instead, DePodesta signed Kent and Jose Valentin and moved Shawn Green to first base. Huh? Kent's been a nice addition, but not for his glove.
In hindsight, I'd give DePo more credit for signing Penny but he gutted the team he had to do it, getting rid of LoDuca, the heart and soul of that club. Now I love me some Russell Martin, but he was far far away at the time. The Dodgers stunk in 2005 because they couldn't decide between theirlousy options at catcher. Imagine if LoDuca had been around then.
But the worst part of the LoDuca trade, and the eternal legacy of DePodesta (aside from dumping Jim Tracy in a cowardly attempt to save his own job) was we were stuck with HEE SEOP CHOI.
Posted by: SaMo | August 31, 2007 at 02:45 PM
SaMo,
Remember that in the Penny deal, if DePodesta had his way he would have spun Penny to the D-Backs for Randy Johnson. DePo to trade him again (Penny/Billingsley for Javier Vasquez), but was thankfully foiled because Vasquez had a serious allergic reaction to the Pacific Ocean.
Posted by: Makoto Ueno | August 31, 2007 at 03:13 PM