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Just like summer camp

Without the s'mores, canoe trips or panty raids, of course. 

The Dodgers' winter camp is underway at the Ravine and seeing the troops young, old and "trying to make the squad" brings about visions of the 2008 season to come.  Along with questions.  For starters, will last season's splashy signing (and training room fixture) Jason Schmidt regain the form that made him one of baseball's best hurlers?  So far, so good, in terms of the righty's rehab, and Smitty's now tossing off a mound.  But it's still no given at this point that he'll be ready for spring training.  Other issues unsettled include who's manning the hot corner on a regular basis (although Andy LaRoche is looking to make this year finally "his" year) and the three folks destined to become outfield mainstays.  Some have wondered if Juan Pierre's large contract would play a role in keeping in left and creating an Andre Ethier/Matt Kemp in platoon in right, but as Joe Torre made clear yesterday, an Ethier-Andruw Jones-Kemp configuration ain't out of the question.

What is known before February even breaks?  A Raffy Furcal-Jeff Kent middle infield is basically set in stone and Yhency Brazoban is back in the fold, arbitration yap being successfully avoided.  Similar talks with Mark Sweeney and Rudy Seanez haven't resolved in similar fashion.

Comments
Chunkdog32

AK/BK,

Furcal and Kent in the outfield? Do you guys have some special inside information?

Jim

I am encouraged now that the players will not just be handed a job because of their contracts and will have to compete and perform to get playing time. We can now look forward to seeing the best possible team we can muster on the field if they carry thru with their statements. GO 08 DODGERS!!!!

ed

off topic, but selig got extended by 3 more years today.

great, scathing review of him in link below. everyone seems to forget mr. “high revenues” tried to CONTRACT teams. he’s awful. he should resign.

http://mlbfleecefactor.com/2008/01/17/money-beats-out-integrity-selig-gets-3-year-extension/

Chris Trujillo, Murrieta Ca.

Big Joe is right. Either,Jones and Kemp start the season with Juan sitting. When one of these three needs a rest or is having a slow start, he's in. Pretty nice spot for him, no pressure right off the start and he can slide in every 2rd or 3th game or late inning sub.
Pierre has no worries, he's going to play. This is a good problem to have in terms of depth.

Higgins

I really don't see LaRoche becoming anything. I see his name along side names like Joe Thurston, Chin-Feng Chen, and Edwin Jackson. He's been the "future 3B" for three or four years now, as the article says. I know not everybody can be a Russell Martin and have immediate success, but I've just never been sold on LaRoche...

Andrew Kamenetzky

Chunk,

Brain cramp on my part, having just been thinking about the outfield. Thanks for the pickup.

AK

dcerros

I wished the Dodgers would have made a move for Troy Glaus.

wausroamer

I guess the Marlins needed to show a $1.5 million loss for tax purposes.

Why else would they sign Timmmmmmmmmberrrrrrrrrrr?

richard

I know this is out of left field -- yes I know the pun, but can Juan Pierre be made into a 2nd baseman? If Kent decides to leave after this year, a great place for him might be 2nd base. Ethier could play left and Juan's speed could be in the line up everyday, and his arm would not be the factor that it usually is.

richard

I think the National League West will be won in the bullpen, all teams should lack for power, but have probably the best pitching top to bottom of any division in baseball. Maybe the American League Central is equal. Those teams tend to have an ace or two and the rest of the starting pitching are scrubs. So whatever team can hold the fort after the starters leave will probably win the division.

Brooklyn Dodger

Richard,

Juan cannot play second base. He's lefthanded.

SaMo

Selig disugsts me. The whole steroid thing has happened on his watch, and everybody knew about it and nobody did anything about it. Baseball has made tons of money off steroid-aided players, and fans don't care about the beauty of the game. They just want to see offense.

Theres' no arguing with money, however, and Selig stays therefore. Only history will be the judge, of a terrible era in the game.

Andy B

A Dodger report!
A Dodger report!

Sometimes I have nothing to say...

dodgerskip

Jim
Who was the last left-handed second baseman you can name?..........
There aren't any. Lefties can't get anything on the throw to first throwing from that posistion and just close your eyes and think of a lefty cutting across the bag to take a throw from short on a double play--would have to do a ballet twirl everytime. Not gonna happen.

Benzo Jones

Richard - I've been pitching the whole Pierre at second base for a while, but my insider information states that Kent has planted a cornfield in short right-center, and he won't leave until shoeless joe comes and plays catch with him.

Brooklyn Dodger

Just for the record, in case anyone is unaware, it is mandatory that anyone playing 2B, SS, and 3B be RIGHThanded. The most obvious reason involves slow hit ground balls in the infield. A lefthanded fielder would not be able to make a quick throw across his body to first or second base. Making the play would require a time consuming pivot to get rid of the ball. And as dodgerskip points out, the pivot at 2B on a double play would not be very efficient, not to mention that the second baseman would be forced to have his back to the infield to make the throw to first. Making a throw home or to third, which occasionally occurs, would be impossible.

For various reasons it's also preferable (but not mandatory) to have a lefthanded first baseman. Throws to second and third are easier, more balls are hit in the hole between first and second (a lefthanders glove side) than down the line, and pickoffs are easier because a lefthanded first baseman does not have to bring his glove across his body to apply the tag.

Jim

Jim
Who was the last left-handed second baseman you can name?..........
There aren't any. Lefties can't get anything on the throw to first throwing from that posistion and just close your eyes and think of a lefty cutting across the bag to take a throw from short on a double play--would have to do a ballet twirl everytime. Not gonna happen.

Posted by: dodgerskip | January 17, 2008 at 06:39 PM

Hey Dodgerskip,
Great points. I think you meant Richard as I have never suggested that Pierre play 2nd. Geez, I am the head of the get him out of town fan club. LOL

dodgerskip

Jim
Sorry, I don't know why I typed you and not Richard.

richard

I apologize for insulting everyone's intelligence with a suggestion but I did not realize he was left-handed. What I did realize is that he has averaged 60 stolen bases over the last 3 seasons. He has also averaged 193 hits and batted an average of .287. If nothing else, that deserves the respect that comes with consistency especially over a guy (Ethier) who hasn't even played 3 seasons in the big leagues. All the armchair quarterbacking in the world can't change that fact. In fact how many major leaguers have averaged 60 stolen bases over the last three years? Only two actually, Jose Reyes and Juan.

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