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What's more dramatic than coming back from a 1-0 NLCS deficit?

Billingsley_in_game_2 How about coming back from a 2-0 NLCS deficit? 

Like it or not (I assume you're going with "not") that's the reality facing the Dodgers after Friday evening's 8-5 loss to the Phillies in Game 2 at Citizen's Bank Park.  Earlier I had expressed the belief that Thursday's opener was more important for Philadelphia, because had they lost with Cole Hamels on the mound, the entire series could be yanked out from under them. Tonight, though, was huge for the Blue.  Mercurial righty Brett Myers took the hill for Philadelphia, while staff ace (or at least staff ace 1-a) Chad Billingsley got the start for LA.  On paper, it's advantage Dodgers.  In practice, only one end of the bargain held up.  Myers, at least on the mound, wasn't very good.  Five innings, six hits, four walks, five earned.  Unfortunately, by comparison Billingsley made Myers look like the second coming of Christy Mathewson.  He faded fast after a solid first inning, hitting the showers before the end of the third.  Four runs (three earned) in the second, four more in the third.  All of Philadelphia's runs accounted for, all hung on Billingsley. 

The Dodgers made a game of it on Manny's three run bomb in the fourth, but never got any closer.  Now they head back to LA needing to win two of three just to send the series back to the city of Rocky.  In short, they can't be the fighter who takes the punches, shows he's got scrap, and gets the nice girl from the pet shop but eventually loses.  No, they need to be the Rocky that should have thrown the damn towel, trains in the Siberian wilderness, takes his punches, then singlehandedly ends the Cold War.

Click below for the breakdown. 

The Good:

  • James Loney:  His double in the third set up LA's first run, then in the third he came through with a clutch, two-out single to drive in the Blue's second run, briefly chipping away at the home team's lead before the fateful third inning.  Add a walk and a couple nifty plays at first, and it was a goodManny_homer_in_game_2 night for the lefty.
  • Manny Ramirez: It wasn't all rosy.  Twice Manny was retired on weak pop ups with runners on, but he also got the Dodgers back in the game courtesy of a big three run bomb with two down in the fourth, cutting the Philadelphia lead to 8-5.  After the Dodgers seemed dead and buried, Manny broke out the paddles gave the team a pulse.  Why Charlie Manuel pitched to him in that situation- yes, loading the bases isn't exactly a move straight out of the baseball handbook, but I'd rather take my chances with Ethier- I don't really know.   
  • James McDonald: It's hard to overstate how good McDonald was on Friday.  Making his playoff debut, the rookie entered the game to face Pat Burrell with the bases loaded, the Dodgers having already given up four runs to fall behind 8-2.  Any more damage, and all hope basically goes out the window.  No worries. McDonald struck out Burrell, and from there just kept rolling, providing a huge boost for both the pitching staff and the team as a whole.  His final line: 3.1 innings, no runs, two hits, one walk, five strikeouts.  McDonald's work became especially important after Manny's homer cut the deficit to a much more manageable size.  Suddenly, he wasn't assigned mop up duty, but important innings. 
  • Clayton Kershaw: Like McDonald, he kept a lid on the Phillies and gave the Dodgers a chance to climb back in the game. 1.2 innings of scoreless relief, leaving in the eighth after a walk to Eric Bruntlett, a mini-mess quickly cleaned up by Cory Wade. 

The Bad:

  • Chad Billinsgley: He was great in Chicago, but Friday didn't have it, assuming "it" is an effective repertoire of pitches and good location.  Lifted with one out in the third, his final line was a bigger train wreck than this godawful contribution to American culture.  Eight runs (seven earned), eight hits, three walks.  Worse, most of the damage was done by the bottom of the order, not the red meaters at the top, and his issues in the second all came with two down.  An innocent looking single from Greg Dobbs deep in the hole over second was followed by a double from Carlos Ruiz to score Dobbs, then a single from Myers to plate Ruiz.  Jimmy Rollins then singled to center, and advanced to second when Matt Kemp kicked the ball.  Ruiz and Myers would score on a Shane Victorino single.  A 1-0 Dodgers lead was a 4-1 deficit in the blink of an eye. 

Things only got worse in the third.  Burrell singled to start the frame, Jayson Werth followed with a double, and Dobbs was intentionally walked.  Barely back from commercial break, the Phils had the sacks jammed.  At this point, I thought Bills was done for the night Billingsley_removed_by_torre (see below), but he wasn't.  After coaxing a fielder's choice from Ruiz, Myers singled down the line to bring in two more and build the Philly lead to 6-2.  At that point, Torre mercifully pulled the plug.  Which brings me to...

  • Joe Torre: Those read the blog regularly know I don't cavalierly call for early inning pitching changes. They are the fire extinguisher behind the glass: Break in case of emergency.  That said, I was shocked that Torre didn't pull the plug on Billingsley after intentionally walking Dobbs in the third.  I thought it was going to happen. I commented on the live blog that it was going to happen.  Would have bet all the money in my wallet.* Chan Ho Park was warming in the pen, and should have been ready to go.  (If he wasn't yet loose, that was another mistake.  Given how the second inning ended, the Dodgers needed to have someone ready heading into the third.)  At that point, even discounting the intentional walk, Billingsley had allowed seven of the last eight guys he faced reach base.  He wasn't fooling anyone, he wasn't locating.  Yes, the bottom of the order was up, but Billinsgley didn't get them out the last go round, either. 

After walking Dobbs, Torre should have grabbed the little hammer, broken the glass, and pulled Billingsley.  The writing was on the wall, and he likely only would have escaped the inning by pure luck.  Last night, I defended Torre's decision to keep Derek Lowe in the game after the righty allowed the game-tying homer to Chase Utley in the sixth.  That, to me, made sense.  Lowe was pitching well.  He let one pitch get away. Billinsgley, however, was struggling mightily. 

Bad move.  Non-move, I should say.

  • Joe Beimel: He entered in the third to face Chase Utley, and walked him. He stayed in to face Ryan Howard, and walked him.  Then he was pulled for McDonald.  Not a very effective outing, I'd say. Overall, the Dodgers needed four pitchers to escape the frame.  A rather startling lack of efficiency, I'd say. 

Quotes:

  • Torre, on his decision to keep Billingsley in the game after the IBB to Dobbs: "No, he's done too much for us.  He's got the catcher and pitched to the pitcher.  We had a situation where we have the pitcher, and I think he has four hits all year and gets three in this game.  So that's tough to count on and defend against.  We certainly gave up too much early, but to me, Billingsley has been too much to this club to take him out in a situation where he's performed so well (throughout the year)."

The explanation doesn't sway me.  Even had Bills managed to get Myers, was there confidence he'd be able to retire Rollins after him?  Removing Billingsley there wouldn't have been an affront to his contributions during the season, just a recognition that he didn't have good stuff Friday night.

  • Torre, on McDonald: I thought McDonald was (outstanding).  To make his first action there in the postseason (a situation of) "Here, the bases are loaded, get this guy out?"  And he strikes out Burrell and then just went on to pitch three more innings, and going through everybody, obviously.  I think we found out a little more about that young man tonight." 
  • Billingsley, on his struggles: "It just didn't happen.  I tried to slow the game down, they just had some balls that found holes, they went the other way when I made some quality pitches, and (I they hit others well)." 

Some pitches, he said, were just lousy.  "Bad pitch, bad location."  Others were okay, but were turned into hits anyway. That'll happen in the bigs.  Billingsley is a guy who takes poor performances to heart and his disappointment was palpable. I don't think he crumbled under the pressure- why would tonight be any different than last week in Chicago?  Like he said, "It just didn't happen."  Guys have bad nights, even in the playoffs, and no matter when he was pulled Billingsley would have landed on the wrong end of our breakdown.  He just should have been yanked faster. 

  • Nomar, on rebounding:  "We're fine.  We'd better be.  I've been in this situation before, and Victorino_robs_blake come back.  That's why you play seven... You just realize that.  You don't worry about it." 
  • McDonald, on his performance: "It's a big performance, but I'd rather have had it go the same way it went in Chicago, when Billingsley went seven, then Wade and Broxton, and I get to watch.  That would be fine with me, as long as the team was winning."
  • McDonald, on suddenly finding himself in a pretty close game: "When I go into games, I try to always have the same mentality.  No pitcher is going to go and just slouch over. Everybody is a competitor, and nobody is going to lay down.  I've seen this team play for this month and I've seen that they never quit and are always in the game.  So when I went in there, I told myself, "Don't let them get any more," and let's see if the team can get back into the game, which they did."
  • The Random Phillies Fan in the Section Next to My Seat: "Write this down: Chad Billingsley stunk it up tonight.  He made Brett Myers (three hits, three RBIs) look like Ty Cobb."

Sums things up neatly, I'd say.

Notes:

  • While Torre didn't come out and say it, given that the Blue are guaranteed to be down in the series and used Kershaw tonight, it seems very likely that Derek Lowe will pitch Game 4 Monday night.  He probably would have anyway, but the odds went way up after Friday's result. 
  • I mention it in the video, but against 629 year old lefty Jamie Moyer on Sunday, it wouldn't shock me to see a little lineup shuffle, just to change the mojo.  Jeff Kent hit the ball pretty hard tonight, and Nomar had a knock in two plate appearances.  I'm not saying it will happen, but it's not out of the question. 
  • I mentioned earlier in the day that Philadelphia manager Charlie Manuel's mother passed away this morning.  After, we learned that Phillies center fielder Shane Victorino, who had a monster effort offensively and with the leather (he finished the seventh leaping high against the wall to rob Casey Blake of extra bases and extinguish a huge opportunity for the Blue), lost his grandmother as well.  So it was a bittersweet evening in the Phillies clubhouse, no question. 

More on the game tomorrow.

BK

*Okay, not my wallet, given the lean economic times in which we're living.  But definitely AK's wallet, no question. 

 
Comments
DBrim

Have to take Bills out there, no question about it.

HOWEVER, had Loney been in double play depth (which he needs to be with bases loaded and one out), he makes the play on Myers and gets an inning ending double play. Not sure if that's Loney's fault or Torre's fault, but it was a huge mistake that led to an even huger inning.

Baseball's definitely a game of inches. If Ethier hit that ball out, we'd have another run. If that ball by Blake was 6 inches higher, we'd be up two runs with a runner on third. We were inches away from winning game 2. This series isn't out of hand, but arguably all three games in LA are now must-win. At least the first two.

DBrim

Lineup:

Kent in doesn't bother me. Nomar in does. The order needs to be shuffled, though. Kemp should be moved down a slot or two, maybe to the 7 hole. I'd switch Martin to fifth, and move Loney to cleanup. Or have both Loney and Ethier in front of Manny.

Screaming Meanie

How very sad. I have nothing else to say.
But I'm the first poster. Props to me.

Brian Kamenetzky

DBrim-

I get what you're saying, but it's not uncommon in that situation to play with the corners in and double play depth up the middle. I didn't see where everyone else was, but I'm assuming that was the alignment.

BK

Bill Grabarkewitz

It wasn't that Torre didn't pull Bills; it was that he'd given up three, then four, then five hits in a row -- and -no one- came out to the mound. What were Torre and Honeycutt and Martin thinking? You've got a kid making his first start in the playoffs getting rattled and no one thinks to try to calm him down? Am I the only one who remembers Burt Hooton?

Torre blew this one, pure and simple.

ASW

DBrim - game of inches inded - if Mannys' SHOT in game 1 was just a couple more feet towards center, it's a HR.....he doesn't score, Dodgers lose by one.....
Blake's Shot tonight just HAD to go to that same stupid spot in the OF - great catch by Victorino.....
That Outfield configuration is KILLING the Dodgers.
Bandbox? Not for the Blue.
___
Like I said on the live blog, before BK, or was it AK?, gotta hold serve at home now....
It CAN be done.

SaMo

Not much to say. Phils outplayed the Dodgers, that's all. How many times was the tying run at the plate, and never did another run cross home?

But they haven't yet lost a home game, and they're undefeated against the Phils in 2008 at the Ravine. Come on home and get ready to take game 3. Kuroda owns the Phils. Jamie Moyer will be lit up like West Hollywood by the third inning.

Hollywood Dodger Mark

This series is now over. Only one team in history has come back o-2 on the road to win a league series, so essentially its over. The fact that Torre managed like there was a tomorrow was shocking. He actually threw the towel in on this one sending Kent out there in the double switch expecting him to what? Play great defense in a tight game for 6 innings? C'mon. Then after Manny homer its 8-5 and we're back in it. Joe must have freaked. The team didn't get the notice. AK - you forgot to mention, the ENTIRE reason Joe left Bills in there was because he was scheduled to bat second. Hahahahaha. Unreal. Nice series. Matt Kemp - your man, AK - nice series. Not ready for primetime. So many people with World Series rings sitting on our bench while Rome burns. Watch as Joe now plays the veterans at home to no avail. Should have batted Pierre in the 2 hole moved worthless macho Martin down to 8th. Moved the Blakes up - but that's not relevant. Fox broadcasters (no friends) shocked by MacDonald batting for himself with one out. Joe gave up! Gutless and you know it. On a side note - see any fox cameras looking at Philly catcher signs and McCarver announcing them? Should be a grievence filed with the league. Also when your all-star catcher is decked and your superstar hitter has a 95 mph fastball go past his shoulders to the back stop, you have to retaliate. Bills did nothing. Joe did nothing. Gutless. The series is now over for all but mathematical purposes and the pen is sooooo well rested. Joe refused to take Elbert and Stultz in this series. Stultz has been in Joe's doghouse since he yanked him in Rockie's game with 12-2 lead. Kuo was "given an inning of work" and of course could not be used today. Joe knew that. Beimel has been declining for months and everyone knows it. He is in Joe's doghouse as well. Kershaw was only lefty reliever available. What a joke. Bills performance is being researched now and might turn out to be the single worst starting performance in NL Championship Series history mathematically. Joe left Lowe out there too long in the previous game when a 7-year-old in Valley Village could tell he was done as well. What a silly team. Ineffective mgr. Honeycutt's only visit to the mound was to stall for time when Bills was melting. Furcal had to come over and tell him to walk the next batter having been directed from the dugout without Honeycutt's knowledge. Like you, we all thought Park was coming in and like you we all thought Loney was out of position. Where was Bob Shaeffer? Why wasn't Loney at double play depth with one out? .500 teams do what we did. Hey, maybe we are a .500 team. Joe's weakness has been the pen his whole career according to his critics. We have the horses. He just chose the wrong ones.

DBrim

In lighter news, Kuroda v Moyer and Lowe v Blanton both favor us pretty well. Those are two highly winnable games and need to be capitalized. If we do our job, it sets up Bills v Hamels, which could be a series decider.

dcerros

Some quick observations

It seems that Ethier and Martin struggle when they hit in the clean-up spot. I think Torre should have Ethier hit 2nd or Manny hit clean-up with Furcal(1st), Russell(2nd), and Ethier(3rd). In the very least he should at least have and forgive for saying this Jeff **gulp** Kent hit 4th. It seems that we need someone with more experience playing 2nd but I don't know, it's a hard decision. Casey Blake is another player that I think should be up in the batting order although he is struggling somewhat. There's been a few occassions in both games when there's runners in scoring position and Dewitt is batting. Although he has a couple of sacrifice for runs, I feel that a more season and veteran player would do better in that spot.

Another option to consider is if Nomar is ready to contribute? If that's the case does Torre bench Blake for Nomar? Also maybe drop Kemp in the batting order since he's hitting .143 in the series.

In the end It comes down to pitching just like Torre said. Why did he let Billingsley languished in the 3rd? He's explanation doesn't work for me either. Billz had a good season for the blue but what matters is right now, and today he was getting drill. The Phillies bullpen is extremely strong and they are keeping the Dodger hitters at bay, so the Dodgers need hit the starters early and convert on more than just one run.

I know we were one error and few inches away from maybe coming back tied 1-1, but a sense of urgency and panick is setting up inside of me.

Matsuda

This has turned to a worst case scenario for the Blue. I've been optimistically frustrated after these 2 games, as a fan watching we are sensitive to bad omens, DLowe given up those 2 homers to Utley&Burrell in game 1 and an early departure for Bills in game 2.. For some reason I got the feeling "Divine Intervention" was against the Blue in Philly? Although, Manny has given a glimpse of hope! The Blue need to do what is expected at home, win all 3, if not, this series is over! Lets hope Kuroda has a mirror performance from the NLDS and DLowe rebounds well for game 4! And last, I have to agree with T.J. Simers, being a Dodger and baseball fan, "Phillies could ruin must-see TV if this keeps up".

Brooklyn Dodger

Hollywood,

FYI. The 1981 Dodgers lost the first two games of the WS at Yankee Stadium, then won the next four (three at Dodger Stadium and the final game at Yankee Stadium).

David s

I understand that the easiest thing in the world is to see the mistakes while watching at home. BUUUUT. Why does Ethier ALWAYS swing at that slider in the dirt for strike three. OK so he's a kid. But after that first slider in the dirt to Nomar why did he swing at two more. It seems Manny is disciplined enough to look for offspeed pitches, why can't Nomar be. Or is he at that point in his career that all he can worry about is catching up to the fastball.? He looked like AJ up there.
David

VA Blueblood

While I'm very discouraged (who isn't?), I am trying to remain optimistic here. Without looking it up, I don't think Hollywood Mark is correct--in 7 game series, I believe a significant number of teams have come back from down 2-0, and the fact that we only lost the road games is no death sentence. Our pitching just has to come up huge this week. Which it can. Lowe, Kuroda, and Bills have all been dominant at home this season. We can do this. And remember, my fellow fans, we were a .500 team for most of this season. This is all bonus time. Keeping that in mind helps with the hurt. So does bourbon, I might add.

ProctorO'Logist

"hollywood dodger mark" is exactly 100% correct, as this series is now over, and this game 2 loss will prove to be the most costly...........anytime team scores 5 runs & has either lowe or billingsley pitching, they simply must win........billingsley picked a rather unfortunate time to revert back to his april '08 form........it's high time billingsley "grew-a-pair"!!!!!!!

Brooklyn Dodger

Hollywood is probably referring to the NLCS in particular (maybe also the ALCS), and probably not 7 game series' in general. I mentioned the comeback in 1981 above, but I also recall that the 1955 Dodgers lost the first two games to the Yankees, won the next three, lost the 6th game, and won the 7th. In 1956 it was the reverse with the Dodgers winning the first two, the Yankees the next three, and so on. Last year the Red Sox came back from a 3-1 deficit in Cleveland, and in 2004 they recovered from a 3-0 deficit to the Yankees. There are probably other examples that I don't recall. Bottom line. The Dodgers are in trouble, but it ain't over till it's over. Chances are that if the Dodgers are to move on, it probably isn't going to be easy.

pk-mesa

OK so this guy made a mistake and that guy did this and oh the other was this and that. Come on Dodger fans we will be alright remember we beat the crap out of them in LA, we will do it again, YOU GOT TO BELIEVE DON'T BE A PLASCKE

gO BLUE

K T

BK/DBrim/Hollywood,
The corners were pulled in, with the middle infielders back in DP depth...this alignment was for the possibility of a 1 out sacrifice/squeeze bunt...You couldn't fault Loney or the coaches for that alignment...the chances for a bunt were a lot higher than him swinging away especially with just 4 hits all season coming into the game

Hollywood Dodger Mark

I was referring to the NLCS of course - by the way, the only team to EVER blow a two game lead in this best of seven series was of course - the 1985 Dodgers. How appropriate. Can anyone say Jack Clark? Anyhoot, this thing is done. Honeycutt's quotes that it all happened so fast is good enuff reason to fire his fat behind. Sorry bro' time to go. Bills accusing Martin of poor "pitch selection" is really an attack on Joe Torre who probably called every pitch of the game. Martin's diplomatic response that Bills didn't shake Martin off tells more about the character of Martin than the lack of character of Chad Billingsly. By the way, Torre comparing Bills to Clemens may not be a compliment as we have seen other sides of Clemens in recent years. Have a good off season everyone. Probably Philly/Boston in the WS. Hope we sign Manny, Blake, Lowe and Furcal - the latter three for short 2 year stints. Manny will have to be five unfortunately.

bigbluemel

I'm thinking we'll get three wins in LA. Manny will be signed after we win the world series and its over with.

Brian Kamenetzky

KT-

I didn't have a problem with where Loney was. I mentioned it as explanation. That's pretty standard for the situation.

BK

Phillies Fan

FIRST OFF GO PHILLIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU TRIED, BUT YOURE DONE. THE PHILLS ARE GOIN TO THE WORLD SERIES. THIS JUST ISNT YOUR YEAR, MAYBE NEXT TIME.

K T

BK,
I understood you didn't have a problem with the defensive alignment (Loney playing up)...I was just letting you know how the team (middle infielders) was actually aligned for that play.

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